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Ghost in the Machine
A weekly podcast on AI

The AI conversation, without the noise.

Andrew DeGood and Liz Short, one optimist and one skeptic, talk honestly about what AI is doing to work, thought, and the humans in the loop. New episode every Thursday.

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Ep. 17 September 10, 2026 · 36:03

Episode 17: Andrew DeGood and Liz Short on Who to Trust About AI

Who do you trust when everyone has a opinion about AI? Andrew DeGood and Liz Short start with a classroom conversation and follow it into a harder question: how do people decide what is true? Andrew wants evidence behind claims about data centers, water, and job losses. Liz asks why communities should trust an industry that promises progress while talking about replacing their livelihoods. They debate social media feeds, the limits of personal experience, surveillance, and who should benefit when infrastructure arrives in a community. Their America versus AI documentary gives the conversation a practical test: leave the feed, meet people, and listen before deciding what they believe. The takeaway is a shared obligation. Ask better questions, follow claims to their sources, and admit what you do not know. Andrew leads AskBobAI; Liz leads Short Solutions. Their industry experience informs their views. Claims discussed remain subject to evidence and correction.

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Andrew DeGood

Host, the optimist

Founder, AskBobAI

Andrew is the founder of AskBobAI and the optimist on the show. He believes the interesting work is figuring out how AI makes people better at the jobs they already do.

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Liz Short

Host, the skeptic

CEO, Short Solutions

Liz is the CEO of Short Solutions and the skeptic on the show. She is not anti-AI. She is anti-everyone-pretending-this-is-fine.

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