Every week, Andrew DeGood and Liz Short sit across from each other and argue. About agents. About jobs. About whether the thing that just shipped is useful or is marketing. One of them is an optimist. One of them is a skeptic. Both of them care more about being honest than being right.
They bring on guests who build with AI, get replaced by it, sell it, regulate it, or refuse to touch it. Then they press both of them. Every episode runs through two lenses. Nobody gets an easy pass.
New episode every Thursday on every major podcast platform, with the video cut on YouTube the same day.
Host, the optimist
Founder, AskBobAI
Andrew DeGood is the founder of AskBobAI, where he builds AI tools for small businesses that have been priced out of enterprise software. He spends his weeks talking to operators about what actually works and what is marketing. On the show, he plays the AI optimist, not because he thinks every tool ships, but because he thinks the downside of refusing to engage is worse than the downside of trying and failing.
Host, the skeptic
CEO, Short Solutions
Liz Short is the CEO of Short Solutions, a consultancy that helps mid-market companies actually ship the operational changes they keep trying to ship. She has spent the last decade watching enterprise software promise transformation and deliver slightly faster spreadsheets. On the show, she is the resident skeptic, not because she hates the technology, but because she thinks the people selling it are several steps ahead of the people buying it.
We do not sell the future and we do not mourn it. We ask what is actually happening, right now, in the room.
Every episode runs through two lenses. We disagree on air. Guests get pressed by both sides.
We trade vague buzzwords for concrete examples. If a claim cannot survive a real example, it does not belong on the show.
AI is the vehicle. The show is about the people using it, building it, working around it, and paying for it.
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